It’s the nihilism, not the IQ

Last week, Ron Guhname of Inductivist, tied together two disparate concepts I’d never thought to shove in the same container: Mexicans and nihilism. Like all good quants, he was able to tease out a correlation between the two groups with unrecognizable alliances using sociological surveys administered to a statistically significant group of people, of which ethnicity is but one variable. In the ethnic rankings of nihilism expressed by ethnic groups based on negative responses to the sentiment that life serves no purpose, Mexicans were at the top of the nihilist heap by a substantial statistical margin.

I gave it some thought. Initially I wasn’t sure what to make of the connection. However, after mulling it over, I began to nod in that “mmm, yeah, it does make sense…” type of post-reactive agreement.

If there is any group I know well, it’s the Mexicans.

We are truly a nihilistic bunch.

We attempt to sweep it grandly under the rug with dogma. The Catholic church has been our standard savior/buffer against the ruthless self-inflicted torments of meaninglessness which we drown in. But as anyone in L.A. can tell you, Mexicans have a voracious need for devotion. Any devotion, and the more fanatical, the better. Slowly, the Catholic church has given way to the 7th Day Adventists, Mormons, Baptists, Jehovah Witnesses, and a host of other self-conscious religiousness in the pursuit of quenching that gaping maw in our soul that threatens to swallow us as the prospect of yet another floundering and useless day winds down.

Mexicans love superstition and mystical shit. They love unrealistic diets and Herbalife. They just love herbs! They like Botanicas and faith healers and fortune tellers, sometimes all within the same scummy storefront in East L.A. Mexicans love this crap unofficially designed to lend meaning and a sense of control to life without meaning. For the essential elemental building block (or perhaps, waste product) of nihilism is hopelessness.

The Mexican character is immersed in hopelessness all its life but reacts as a culture with flagrant stereotypical pretensions. Superstition is our grand mortal salve which soothes the pain of Nothingness. Mexicans are practitioners not only of black magic, but black humor. The way we laugh at ourselves and our misfortunes would mortify most people, especially the SWPL folk. I learned at a young age that I needed to tone down my fatalism when dealing with non-Mexicans because the attitude can come across as harsh and dispiriting to those who were raised in cultures of hope and putative meaning.

Within Mexican culture, as with all cultures, nihilism is a descriptor, an adjective that insinuates nothing of behavior. It’s our reaction to nihilistic beliefs and values that shape our personality. It’s what we do with this knowledge that matters. A lot of Mexicans react by partying. There is a strong strain of joie de vivre interlaced with tragedy and sadness in the Mexican persona. Joyous, boisterous songs of sadness. The tragedy is our sadness at the irrevocable emptiness we experience at the cruel irony of a life that calls itself “life.” The natural extension of nihilism in the normal human is hopelessness. Being a worst sort of nihilist, I try to find strength in myself, autonomously. I shunned religion and superstition long ago. When I was 12. A nihilistic minded person can soften the approach by molding a personal, unyielding value system from which to derive substantive meaning from life. One can shrink his world to such a degree that the border of his existence stops just outside his field of vision, and thus isolated, is able to withstand an aimlessly glib existence.

Nihilism is an inhibitor of ambition. What’s the use of ambition when there is little intrinsic hope in this world and its delusions? A couple of days prior to this post, Gunhame put several occupations to the nihilism test. He found that lower-income occupations scored highest in scores of nihilism. He concluded that “evidently, a sense of meaningless is more of a problem for people with low status, repetitive occupations. Jobs with power and money are correlated with less nihilism.”

I feel this is putting the cart before the horse because of my experience with Mexican nihilism. Nihilism kills ambition. When nihilism is present as a pervasive cultural curse (and I have no idea why Mexicans are more nihilistic), this brings a pall upon all striving and long-term desires since most people don’t handle nihilistic conclusions very well. Rather than manipulate life to suit their own needs, they manipulate their expectations and values in order to create a world with meaning, however spurious, even if it is artificial and implanted deep in the web of a holy book. This sense of nihilism quashes ambition and competitiveness, the fuel of capitalistic modernism.

Whereas the archetypal tiger mom is driven by a furious and blind pissing match with other tiger moms, and the eyes of genteel society in general, the typical nihilistic Mexican sees no reason to suffer greatly for a future that means nothing.

My own nihilism prevents me from taking things seriously and I’ve let it now sabotage any sense of well-being. Some might fight to prop up a conformist value system and hope that the presence of shit and money in their life might give it some worth. Lonely is the nihilist who can’t find worth in money or possessions.

The key to “excellence” in this post-modern consumerist cacaphony is caring and believing this rat race has meaning and significance and that the dollar matters. Mexican nihilism negates crass materialism. It’s no surprise that the most materialistic and wealthy present day Mexicans often attain their fortunes by marketing narcotics, the great escape vehicle from valueless existence.

  • David

    cheap petrol chainsaws

    WTF?
    There spam for everything.

  • Amy

    More on this:

    “Mexican Fatalism” post at “The Audacious Epigone”

    http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2011/12/mexican-fatalism.html

    • David

      Interesting, thanks for the tip!

      I piped in :)

  • Humberto

    Greetings from Monterrey, Mexico.
    Very interesting post. Torres Bodet illustrated this perfectly in his “México canta en la ronda de mis canciones de amor”. Truly breaks my heart every time I read it.
    –>

    México está en mis canciones,
    México dulce y cruel,
    que acendra los corazones
    en finas gotas de miel.

    Lo tuve siempre presente
    cuando hacía esta canción;
    ¡su cielo estaba en mi frente,
    su tierra en mi corazón!

    México canta en la ronda
    de mis canciones de amor,
    y en la guirnalda con la ronda
    la tarde trenza su flor.

    Lo conoceréis un día,
    amigos de otro país:
    ¡tiene un color de alegría
    y un acre sabor de anís!

    Es tan fecundo que huele
    como vainilla en sazón
    ¡y es sutil! Para que vuele
    basta un soplo de oración…

    En la duda arcana y terca,
    México quiere inquirir:
    un disco de horror lo cerca…
    ¿cómo será el porvenir?

    ¡El porvenir! ¡No lo espera!
    Prefiere, mientras, cantar,
    que toda la vida entera
    es una gota en el mar;

    una gota pequeñita
    que cabe en el corazón:
    Dios la pone, Dios la quita…
    ¡Cantemos nuestra canción!

    • David

      Nice, thank you for that! It does sum up the bittersweet duality of the Mexican character, doesn’t it?

      *My mother’s family is from Monterrey.

  • ski

    Also, it’s interesting that the Russians are quite low on nihilism when stereotypically you’d think they’d be high. The Yugoslavs and Greeks who’ve also been conquered people are also very low. Maybe Eastern Orthodox Christianity is the common factor here?*

    I was reading something about how the image of the suffering, crucified Christ was extremely rare before the 11th century and that when it did become more common, it became much more common in the Catholic Church than the Orthodox. The Catholic Church focuses much more on the meek, suffering, crucified Christ– Christ as sacrificial lamb, whereas the Orthodox focuses more on the victorious, risen Christ– Christ as king.

    *Yugoslavs naturally have Islam and Catholicism as well but perhaps this is still a factor here.

  • ski

    Lemme jump in and explain the Polish nihilism as best as I can.

    Poles see themselves as having lost over and over again due to betrayal and overwhelming odds against them.

    The basic storyline is that first they were betrayed by the partitions of Poland after having saved Europe from the Turks at Vienna; then neglected during the 1830 uprisings against Russia; then forgotten again after saving the West from communism in the Polish-Soviet War of 1920; then betrayed thrice in WWII– first when the West didn’t take action after the initial Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland; then at the end of the war when America/Britain “sold” Poland to the Soviets at Yalta and returned Polish veterans who’d been promised amnesty in the West to the Soviet Union (most went to the Gulag or committed suicide rather than face forced repatriation); and finally betrayed by the way the West came to remember Poland in WWII– whether it be the Polish AK units forbidden to march in British victory parades, myths about Polish cavalry charging tanks with lances, or exaggerated claims of complicity in the Holocaust.

    Perhaps the best example of this view is the Polish idea of Poland as the “Christ of Europe” or “Christ of Nations”:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Europe

    From this kind of experience and continued worldview naturally follows the belief that winning is actually shameful, or that it’s not really winning if you aren’t completely destroyed in the process. Another way of saying it would be that the only “real” victory is a Pyrrhic victory– or conversely that all victories are Pyrrhic victories in disguise.

    And well, I think it’s pretty obvious that nihilism easily follows from such a worldview.

    I’m basically not “Polish” at all in language or culture, but the one thing my Polish side seems to have passed on besides a peculiar surname and an appreciation for borscht is that damn Polish nihilism.*

    *not quite a nihilist but life is a constant battle against nihilism since I have the “no-victory-but-a-Pyrrhic-one” attitude.

    • David

      Yes, I thought I read once that Poland’s historical “punching bag” role is one cause of Pollock joke phenomena.

      I think what I’m getting at is that nihilism as a cultural outlook can presage ill fortune as well as be a result of ill fortune. Let’s say we reduced Poland to an individual. Let’s assume this individual experienced Poland’s history but within the framework of an individual history. This person’s life was rife with betrayal, manipulation, false blame…repeatedly. At what point do we say, hmmm, how much of this is his own doing?

      Perhaps the cultures that believe life means something are the most inclined to live out this attitude?

      Ambition is hereditary, I’ve seen it myself. Conversely, indifference is as well.

  • Floatc

    “There is a strong strain of joie de vivre interlaced with tragedy and sadness in the Mexican persona.”

    Growing up in Australia I didn’t interact with Mexicans much, but your quote above could pretty much describe the impression that Cypress Hill music made on me.

    You ask why Mexicans are more nihilistic, and Amy mentions the Irish and eastern Europeans. I propose that it has something to do with being part of a stock that has experienced a kind of death in time, retaining a memory of impermanence as a remainder of a civilisation that has dissolved. And eastern Europe, my land origin, has also seen its fair share of unprecedented upheaval and division. These experiences, like reaching the bottom of the pit of hell and climbing out of it, tend to make some people cast their eyes to the beyond, even if many do it in a confused way.

    Respect to you, farewell.

    • David

      The death angle is interesting. Mexican culture is comfortable embracing death to such a degree it might strike others as macabre. The Day of the Dead with its celebration of ghoulish masks and kinship with the dead is well-known in Southern California and throughout Mexico. You can routinely find Mexican people having parties and social gatherings at graves around here, not to mention all the Budweiser cans :) The line between life and death is blurry and never far away for Mexicans and nothing drives home the nihilistic perspective like the delicate immediacy of death.

  • imnobody

    I don’t think nihilism is higher in Mexicans than, say, in Europe, which is a very secularized society.

    I think the difference is the value put on the rat race. Societies with Protestant tradition value this a lot, while Catholic societies not so much. You know, Max Weber’s “Protestant ethic and the spirit of the capitalism”. I know it’s a cliché but it’s true.

    Besides that, having lived 11 years in Latin America, it seems to me that it’s difficult to care about working hard when this means very little for your life.

    I have been witness of many occasions where the job or the project did not go to the most qualified/the most hard-working/the one with a product with the highest quality but to the one who bribed the most or had the better connections. So… why working so hard?

    • David

      Yes, I addressed Inductivist’s conclusions on face value, but the conclusion that Mexicans are more nihilistic than other races bears examination as well.

      True, I’ve yet to hear anyone cite the “Catholic work ethic.”

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  • Amy

    Plenty of dark-humored, nihilistic, fatalistic white folks too. Case in point–Celtic peoples, especially the Irish. Who do you think invented Murphy’s Law? (“Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong,” and its corollaries, e.g. “No good deed goes unpunished.”) Celts excel at gallows humor and pessimistic thinking (and at partying in spite of it).

    I’m surprised the Irish show up so far down on the list. And what’s up with the Poles and Czechs? Is it from all the years spent behind the Iron Curtain?

    • Amy

      Huh–my avatar disappeared!

    • David

      Filipinos were second on Inductivist’s list. Dark-skinned Catholics? :)

      I instantly thought of Irish as well This whole thing was a thought experiment really, and another thought experiment…if we could retroactively survey the Poles and Czechs in, let’s say the year 1900, where would their “nihilist ranking” fall? Does nihilism follow fate or does fate feed on nihilism?

      Nihilism is nothing fancy really but intellectualizing it and being European or Russian definitely lends it a special aura!

  • It’s posts like these that make me wonder how in the world did you get married in the first place, let alone with a Korean woman. They are notoriously materialistic and status-seeking, quite the opposite of your philosophical views. Did you always think this way?

    • Dali, I’ll answer that. Hell No! I think that being married and seeing someone just like him may have opened his eyes. Or closed them. However you want to look at it.

    • David

      I have always been like this but the first 40 years of my life were spent in a conformist slumber where I attempted to soothe the dichotomy with the tools we are taught make things better. I lived externally, sought succor externally. When I was 40 I almost died in a car accident and this was a wake-up call, but even then, it didn’t happen overnight. Hardly. I like think this blog was a natural extension of that personal evolution.

  • So, what you are saying is that Mexicans are lazy and shiftless people? I am serious about this question. That is all I can get from this post. I don’t totally agree if that is the point. As far as the belief in God, that is something I ADMIRE about Mexicans.

    • David

      Lazy and shiftless, hardly. Mexicans are hard workers!

      • Well then I am confused. You say that there is this nihilism about Mexicans, yet then point out that they are very religious people. Then that contradicts the first point. And that is a huge overgeneraliztion of Mexicans. I do agree, most ARE hard-woking people. Well, except for this blogger! LOL! But what I also wonder if this is but an excuse as to why Mexicans are not, as a group, higher up the ladder.

        • “You say that there is this nihilism about Mexicans, yet then point out that they are very religious people. Then that contradicts the first point.”

          How come it’s the fat people who are always dieting?

          • David

            Piercing analogy!